tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4424288185418554374.post8069231649598849798..comments2023-12-23T20:32:03.960-08:00Comments on otherspoon: Watch it Drop.Ann Neumannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13690469764844904030noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4424288185418554374.post-16313644132085638392008-12-12T14:14:00.000-08:002008-12-12T14:14:00.000-08:00Jason, You're unfortunately missing the real p...Jason, You're unfortunately missing the real point here. The (12 or 18) Republican senators who voted for the TARP bailout but against the automotive bailout were scaping goats. Here was their chance to take out the UAW - when the UAW has nothing to do with the failure of the automotive industry - then ensuring the livelihood of their constituents. Or rather, many of them come from states that afford foreign automotive companies great allowances in the billions to operate in their districts/states. They don't oppose giving money for any socialist reason. And they are only using the UAW as an excuse - as Republicans have since FDR! - to stand on ideological ground. They are watching their votes. Keep the unions down, keep down an ideological block that believes in equal opportunity, worker's rights, equal pay, etc.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the UAW's concessions, here are some stats for you:<BR/><BR/>In particular, this is bad news for the UAW, because the GOP seems intent on pinning the problem on their refusal to accept immediate pay cuts (they offered to take a phased-in cut over two years). Of course, as David Leonhardt points out, that would only change the price of a car by $800, which is not a make-or-break discount for someone looking to buy a car. The problem still resides in the type of cars that the company makes. Labor has made several compromises with the automakers in recent years, most notably a 2007 agreement where they took responsibility for their own pension fund in order to allow GM to get ... more outside funding. The union shouldn't be held accountable for the mistakes of management.<BR/><BR/>http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=12&year=2008&base_name=bailout_failout_dreadAnn Neumannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13690469764844904030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4424288185418554374.post-31019033169826900092008-12-12T09:57:00.000-08:002008-12-12T09:57:00.000-08:00General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 7...General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 74,000 U.S. hourly employees. [5] Those workers could have elected to take a lump-sum payment of $45,000 or $62,500, depending on their job description, and retire with full benefits. [6]<BR/><BR/>Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio, a strong bailout supporter, said the UAW was willing to make the cuts - but not until 2011.<BR/><BR/>http://nomedals.blogspot.com <BR/>is were citations are postedJasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11707747781007743555noreply@blogger.com